A 17-year-old mass com student bungled her Q&A then went on to win the Bb. Pilipinas World title. See the video of Janina San Miguel’s question and answer interview here and Ruffa’s reaction here. Ruffa was a runner-up in the Miss World pageant a generation ago. Her title was “second princess”, a glamorized synonym for runner-up or second stringer.
I disagree with Ruffa Gutierrez that it’s embarrassing to be unable to speak in straight English. I disagree with her as well when she says that a beauty pageant should be both about beauty and brains.
In the first place, being articulate in English is not necessarily the same as having brains — especially for Filipinos. What is she implying — that every Filipino who was raised with English as their first language are all brainy? Paki sungkit nga yung kilay ko.
In the second place, there is a reason why beauty pageants are called beauty pageants and not IQ contests. If it were otherwise, winners would be declared, maybe, once every 10 years.
Finally, I don’t understand this insistence on conducting the Bb. Pilipinas pageant in English. I don’t understand why it is necessary to put all these girls through all that humiliation. While they are not expected to be Einsteins, they should at least have a chance to express what they mean without all the shitty language barriers. Beauties from Latin American countries win international beauty contests left and right and they don’t speak a word of English. Not because they are honor students but because they get the chance to say what they mean and mean what they say. There are interpreters in international beauty contests and the use of interpreters is not taken against the contestants.
I don’t know which is more embarrassing for the Filipina image — Janina San Miguel’s incoherent answer or Ruffa Gutierrez’s twisted self-righteousness.
67 Responses
kreez
March 10th, 2008 at 11:11 pm
1Amen Ate Connie!!! I don’t know why a lot of people equate being articulate (in english) with being brainy, and just because they can express themselves in english, some people feel they’re notches higher than the rest.
Connie Veneracion
March 10th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
2Colonial mentality, perhaps, coupled with a twisted sense of elitism.
Granted that Janina San Miguel embarrassed and humiliated herself on stage, the blame falls on the pageant organizers as much as on her.
Chris
March 11th, 2008 at 2:16 am
3You’ve got a point there connie. But until our “beauty” contests are held in tagalog, I think there is a certain amount of preparation involved in joining a contest that you know will be held in english. The fact that this girl bungled the Q&A shows that she 1. Didn’t prepare, hence deserved to fail that portion. 2. arguably felt that the rest of her “talents” was enough to win her the crown. She was right.
The Ca t
March 11th, 2008 at 2:27 am
4Natawa naman ako saiyo doon sa pakisungkit ang kilay. Ruffa needs publicity these days- something controversial. Her movie with her” uhaw-din-sa-publicity mom” Annabelle Rama will be showing soon. I think the Lani-snubbing-her-affair was not enough to raise the interest of the pagod-na-public sa ingay ng mag-ina. Oh I am writing in Tagalog too because I got only half the normal brain. hohoho.
BatJay, Ang Dating Hippopotamus
March 11th, 2008 at 3:56 am
5oo nga. porke hindi lang makapag express maigi sa english, mababa na ang tingin sa kanya ng mga tao. napansin ko, yung mga pilipino rin lang naman ang pumupuna doon sa mga pilipino na hindi marunong mag english, as if yun na ang pinaka criteria sa katalinuhan.
i’ve been out long enough to talk to very intelligent people who can’t even construct a basic english sentence.
para sa akin, ok lang yung broken english basta naipapahayag mo yung gusto mong sabihin. wala akong pakialam kahit pagtawanan ako ng mga ruffa types (and there are a lot of them around). at least hindi naman ako nagnanakaw ng pera ng bayan tulad ng mga ibang magaling mag english sa gobyerno natin.
Chris
March 11th, 2008 at 4:07 am
6Agree with Batjay. I have people working for me who couldn’t speak english if their lives depended on it, but can work out complex mechanical equations in while eating isaw, making me feel incredibly stupid.
dailyphotographer
March 11th, 2008 at 7:56 am
7I agree, intelligence should not be equated with your ability to speak English fluently. But as for Janina’s part, I hoped she would practice and prepare more for the actual Ms. World contest in terms of her self-confidence and how to handle pressure. I think she would have answered well if she was more confident. The Filipino crowd during the contest also contributed to her downfall. The moment she buckled at her answer, the crowd was already violently reacting, ridiculing her. If the crowd were intelligent enough they would have kept quiet and allow her to gather herself and organize her thoughts to give a good answer.
Kongkong622
March 11th, 2008 at 8:38 am
8“Finally, I don’t understand this insistence on conducting the Bb. Pilipinas pageant in English. I don’t understand why it is necessary to put all these girls through all that humiliation.”
There, that’s what I’ve been saying all along. Is it so wrong to use our own language to ask and answer questions in these contests? Bakit, is it more sosi if you speak English than a dialect? Pwede ba!
julie
March 11th, 2008 at 9:23 am
9Feeling magaling naman yang si Ruffa.When she speaks and one doesn’t know she is female, parang hindi siya female
If I remember it right, she said she wanted to be a child psychologist and work with children during her Q&A for the Miss World. Duh?
ganda_ganda
March 11th, 2008 at 11:16 am
10Pwede ba may right si Ruffa magcomment, nanalo sya sa Miss World as 2nd runner up….She is just protecting the sanctity of her crown…What a disgrace naman kasi na ihalera si Janina sa kanyang setro at World crown..Masakit man pero yun ang totoo..Speaking english is a discipline and a study in itself kaya nga ginagawang subject sa school at mga curriculum di ba? So kailangan ng brains pa din so speaking english eh ginagamitan pa din ng brains mo kasi discipline sya..haller!!!
Connie Veneracion
March 11th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
11Chris, yeah, her embarrassment was not in her broken English but in her inability to answer the question, period.
Ca t, kasi I can’t erase Ruffa’s facial expression in the TV Patrol video. Mocking and just downright mean. And it’s not like nakabawi sya in the end by giving unsolicited advice. re Annabelle Rama, nakooowww, I can fill up an entire blog about her hahahaha but never mind, di ba, because she does not deserve the publicity.
Batjay and Chris, Gardner is soooo right in his theory of multiple intelligence, eh?
Kongkong, I think it is partly because Bb. Pilipinas is a franchise. Dati, franchise ng Ms. Universe; today, I think franchise of Ms. World.
Julie, and I was wondering what she was asked during her time heheehe
Chris
March 11th, 2008 at 1:00 pm
12langya naman Sas, pina-google mo ako ng di-oras.
Now at least I can agree. LOL. Yeap!
http://www.thomasarmstrong.com/multiple_intelligences.htm
ruth
March 11th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
13tingin ko naman, while english proficiency is not an indicator of IQ, parang it’s still telling if di man lang niya ma-express ang sarili nya in english, considering na siguro naman, graduate man lang ito ng high school, and therefore has had at least 10 years of english classes. di bale sanang mali-mali ang grammar, pero ang mas malala, walang sense yung sagot nya eh.
hay naku, kung bakit kasi may q&a pa ang beauty contest eh!
barney
March 11th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
14I agree that Ruffa’s view is not exactly correct. But I also agree that the Janina should not have won the title… not because she speaks atrocious English but because she had was not able to answer the question coherently, be it in broken English or straight Filipino. Some people may not have the proper skills and background to speak grammatically correct English but they can still put their ideas across despite that “handicap”.
And with the point that IQ is not necessary in so-called beauty contests — I think this frame of mind perpetuates the idea that sexually objectifies women.
carol
March 11th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
15ang ganda ng comment mo batjay, very well said..dapat mabasa to ni janina san miguel para naman gumaan pakiramdam niya.
ben
March 11th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
16I have a beauty pageant question — ‘would you have your orgasms in english or in tagalog, and tell us why.’
auee
March 11th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
17Excuse me, Rupa. What ip I dun spek ferpect englis?
Nakaka-highblood. Pati nga congress and senate english ang medium, magtataka ka dahil lahat naman sila Pinoy! Social status kunwari.
In all honest, marami naman kasing Pinoy ang daling maintimidate kapag nag-i-ingles nang may accent ang kausap nila. Take for example in malls and shops (esp “upmarket” ones), kapag pumasok ka na mukha kang hikahos walang papansin sa iyo, minsan babastusin ka pa. You start demanding/speaking in English and most of the staff will very nearly shit themselves.
Women’s Dorm in UPLB holds a yearly Ms Women’s pageant for freshies. Our roomie was a candidate and coming from the boondocks she was not confident with her English vocabulary. We coached her to speak in Filipino (ie Tagalog) and ask for the question to be repeated in the vernacular if needed. The question “What is feminism to you”. Ayun pinatagalog nga nya, Tagalog sya sumagot, at nanalo pa. The others who tried and failed, looked like fools.
auee
March 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
18re-reading my comment and natawa ko sa typo ko… anyway apologies for the long commentary
Connie Veneracion
March 11th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
19Ben, I have an answer: Grunts and groans are a universal language BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Auee, sa Diliman, sa Econ, ang Ms. Econ LALAKI hahahahaha
oscar
March 11th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
20Sa Ms Engg din, lalaki.
Hay naku. Bakit sa isang beauty pageant sa Ilocos, pag di ka sumagot ng pa-Ilocano sa kanilang Q&A portion eh bagsak ka na?
Tingin ko lang feel ni Ruffa magbigay ng advice kasi she’s been there, been that. Mag-quote ka ba naman ng linya mula sa The Little Prince eh pwede ka nang second princess.
Bago na blog ko ha (na naman)?
bertN
March 11th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
21I cannot agree with you more! The ability to speak English well is not a measure of one’s intelligence…for a Pinoy or foreigner alike.
Angel
March 11th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
22Honestly I was also disappointed that Janina San Miguel was declared as Bb. Pilipinas - World 2008 not because of her wrong english or grammar but the wrong answer kahit na siguro tinagalog niya yun ganun pa rin kalalabasan. Or something like she did not comprehend the question very well. Yun ang totoong kaso at hindi ang pagsasalita ng English. As I said to other forums kung naisagot niya ng maikli yung tanong like “My family is helpful, or my family is supportive” baka nakalusot pa siya or hindi magiging issue yun. Unlike ito na mashadong nangingibabaw ang kanerbyosan niya kung kaya lalo pa siyang napahiya.
Regarding naman kay Ruffa naisip ko rin honestly na pwedeng may point siya sa sinabi niya since pinag-aaralan rin natin ang English language pero I could really disagree sa fact na it is embarrassing, I DON’T BELIEVE SO! Why? English is just a language it happens that it was marked or chosen to be the international language. So anyone could explain it to me LOGICALLY kung bakit sa pagsasalita ng English mapagbabasihan ang katalinuhan or kung bakit doon maisusukat ang talino sa pagdadakdak ng naibang lenguahe nandahil hindi ito diretsong tagalog o filipino? Meron nga english ng english, nakagamit na ng salitang malalim mula sa Thesaurus pero pag inintindi mo mga sinasabi niya wala namang saysay. Until now that is my question that I could not understand na may mga Pilipino na ginagamit ang English as pasosy effect or pamukhang very smart and educated. Tapos parang hiyang hiya na gamitin ang sariling wika. Sa ibang salita mashado ring minamasama yung pagsasalita ng tagalog. Kaya honestly disagree rin ako sa English Campaign system na pinapagawa ng school tapos kapag nagtagalog ka meron kang sanction. KALOKOHAN! Pwede namang gawin lang yan sa English class, na kapag nagtagalog doon magbibigay ng sanction.
And as for Ruffa nung nanood ako ng TV patrol, naisip ko nga after ng segment niya na kung…. “Ikaw ba Ruffa nagamit mo rin utak mo nung nag-asawa ka?” , “Naisip mo ba kung anong klaseng mapapangasawa na meron ka bukod sa dahil siya ay mayaman?”, “Bakit mo hinayaan sarili mo na masaktan ka lang?” Ahihihihihih!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rachel M
March 11th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
23Hi, I stumbled upon your blog through a link from one of the local forums/fora.
While I agree that English proficiency does not equate to Intelligence, I have to admit that I had an embarrassingly good time laughing at the poor girl’s booboo. (Yes, I’m one of those mean girls clouded by colonial mentality.)
But really, I find nothing wrong with speaking in Tagalog. I would have admired anyone who had the guts to take the risk of speaking in perfect Filipino in one of the local pageants. But perhaps a lot of people noticed merely the flawed English more than the substance (or lack thereof) of her actual answer, and it was actually the latter that bothered me more. Wala siyang sagot. She was completely dumbfounded. I guess no matter how much training she had, it just wasn’t enough. Poise could be learned through time, but wit is something else altogether.
rolly
March 11th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
24Well,considering that her course is masscom, I think English is ikmportant to her, at least. But I agree with your arguments - that we equate english to having a high IQ. What is unfortunate s when you have a knowledgeable person on a subject and he/she cannot express this in english simply because the pretentious wuold only be impressed if the knowledge is passed on in english and not the vernacular.
ann
March 11th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
25yeah, i agree that her embarrassment comes from her not being able to deliver the answers right and not being able to perfect the grammar. from where i’m working, there are a lot of geniuses who couldn’t even write a simple paragraph without having the thoughts stray somewhere. i even sit in conferences where high profile people would talk and whose grammars are far behind the filipino standard but all these people are being looked up into. our recent announcement here for our sportsfest says, “let’s all to the game”! oh, well, whatever that means. But sad to say that only the filipinos are ridiculing that while the americans don’t even bother.
Sa UP Visayas, we have the pageant called “hasa” where certified males are dressed like girls. it’s fun:)
maria
March 11th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
26yeah it’s a beauty pageant but it’s not just beauty that they need when they win a pageant like BB.Pilipinas specially kung sila ang napili to represent our country.. pano pa kung sila ang manalo.. they have responsibilities as a beauty title holder.. and they have to be a role model to others, so they have to be smart.. she doesn’t need to speak really good english but atleast make sense on what she’s saying.. now i think that she didn’t even understand the question.. anyway thats just my opinion..
Em Dy
March 12th, 2008 at 12:06 am
27Her English skills or lack of it are not that big a deal to me. That, after all, can be taught. What I don’t understand is her seeming lack of drive. Why enter a beauty contest and not expect to win or be content with less than the top 10 slot? She should have at least prepared and could have answered the question in whatever language. Determination is an important element in any endeavor. Chance favors the prepared mind. And whatever opportunity come across us, we should always welcome it by doing our best.
The Ca t
March 12th, 2008 at 12:15 am
28Ruffa should be reminded that BB in the BB. Pilipinas does not stand for beauty and brains. In the pageant, they are not given iq test to measure their intelligence, instead, the talent portion showcases their extrarodinary skills in different fields. Otherwise, the judges would be composed of the people in the academe or sciences with awards tucked in their belts.
The panel of judges in the international competition are composed of people who are not proficient in English as well. They were there as somebody with eyes for beauty. Because, that is beauty pageant is all about. In one state in America, a beauty pageant winner is one with beauty and the skill to skin a muskrat. Am not kidding.
Lynn
March 12th, 2008 at 12:43 am
29Charlene Gonzales gave a good answer when asked about the recent Janina Q&A issue, that it’s not just about having a good command of the English language but it’s more of answering the question correctly (or at least give a coherent answer). I can only agree. At least may sense ang sagot ni Charlene.
Connie Veneracion
March 12th, 2008 at 3:26 am
30I laughed at her too. Not so much for the wrong grammar but her demeanor — the “Oh, my god” and “I’m sorry”.
Gloria
March 12th, 2008 at 9:30 am
31yung sagot ni ruffa sa ms world pageant nung panahon niya eh MEMORIZED. susme, kugn di pa siya na-train nina Gloria Diaz at di pinangutang ng mga gowns ng nanay niya, eh baka hindi naman siya napansin sa pageant na iyon! hmp. buti nanalo siya at may ipinangbayad sila sa mga inutang na gowns. bwahaha. hayy naku, yung english naman niya eh meron palaging “graabehhh”. ha ha ha.
ang point ko, wag mang-lait. dahil wala namang perfect na tao. lalo na beauty pageant contestants!!! kaya nga sila pang beauty pageant dahil for some reason eh naiwan nila kung saan ang brains nila. otherwise, they will just take a degree in college and wag na i-humilate ang sarili nila on television.
kunsabagay, where did that miss world 2nd princess bit brought ruffa?! wala rin di ba? kung di pa umalis sa the biuzz si kris aquino eh wala siyang trabaho! as if gettting millions from ylmas bektas isn’t enough? ha ha ha.
ben
March 12th, 2008 at 10:07 am
32Sassy so isn’t it logical to conclude that grunts and groans are the correct carbon-dating standard to apply for outdated neanderthal competitions like these? i rest my case then.
Connie Veneracion
March 12th, 2008 at 10:18 am
33Gloria, re “kaya nga sila pang beauty pageant dahil for some reason eh naiwan nila kung saan ang brains nila.”
You know, I think this is a recent trend. I remember an interview given by Gloria Diaz when she said that back in the 60s, joining a beauty contest was like a “summer activity”. You know, for fun. Today, beauty contests are like stepping stones to riches. An investment for the contestants because it can mean a lucrative career in entertainment later on OR a rich husband OR both.
And that, Ben, is why I think beauty contests will stay. It is business.
Ooh, that sounds like a topic for a column hehehehe
Chris
March 12th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
34oh boy…
I know this isn’t the place for it, but:
She’s at it again, and this time she’s declaring war. HEheh.
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=goodLife2_mar10_2008
reiser
March 12th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
35“In the second place, there is a reason why beauty pageants are called beauty pageants and not IQ contests. If it were otherwise, winners would be declared, maybe, once every 10 years.” …Connie Veneracion
What? …such a pessimist! Better wear a seatbelt if you can give a reason! Please review your writings…
joy
March 13th, 2008 at 12:59 am
36ohh.. gosh its so embarassing..
edi sana tinagalog nalang nya yung answer nya sa sagot- kung nde ba nmn sya bobols! If she knows the answer she should have answer it in tagalog– o baka nmn nde nya alam yung ung answer. Oh gosh! mag thai iced tea nalang sya with BOBA!
I agree with Ruffa! I think whoever wins the pageant should have beauty N intelligence! Someone who will be a “good model” to everyone. Nde lang pampa-beauty yung inaatupag, but her choice to be educated.
Kotsengkuba
March 13th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
37Forgive me for I have sinned. Isa talaga sa pinakaaabangan kong portion ng beauty pageants e yung Q&A person, hindi dahil tuwang-tuwa ako sa balu-baluktot nilang English pero dahil nakakatawa talaga sila dahil para lang maipagpilitan ang English e kahit malayo sa putukan ang sagot e magpipilit paring mag-English. Pwede naman kase Tagalog dahil wala naman ata sa rules na English dapat ang sagot. And besides, sa Miss Universe pageant ang daming mga gumagamit ng interpreters at nananalo pa. Tingnan nyo nalang si Miss Japan last year. Bakit kase ipinagpipilitan ng Pilipinas na we have super high English literacy rate pero kahit sa mga technical degree holders maraming di marunong mag-English. Pero “English literacy rate” naman doesn’t mean being fluent in English di ba? Tama ba?
Anyway, ang point ko lang naman e wag na nating ipagpilitan ang pagiingles sa mga pageants dahil pwede namang mag-interpreter. Kung sa paggamit ng interpreter tayo mananalo taun-taon e bakit hindi.
Kay Ruffa naman, dinaig lang sya nung si Mpule Kwelagobe dati kaya naghihimutok parin sya hanggang ngayon. Hahaha! Lantaran nang mga baho nila nagmamalinis parin.
Connie Veneracion
March 13th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
38“Pwede naman kase Tagalog dahil wala naman ata sa rules na English dapat ang sagot.”
I don’t know if there’s an English-only rule in the Bb. Pilipinas pageant. If there is, shame on them. Shucks, the judges read the questions — READ — and some of them are hard to understand because of bad pronunciation (yung iba, nagpapa-slang pa kasi). Isn’t that insane — judges and candidates alike nagpipilit?
“And besides, sa Miss Universe pageant ang daming mga gumagamit ng interpreters at nananalo pa.”
Exactly.
Paul
March 13th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
39I was in the audience when Ms. San Miguel uttered her fateful words and almost all of us felt that she had a snowball’s chance in he– in winning.
I know of a couple of beauty queens who have slipped back into relative obscurity and resumed pursuing their careers prior to joining the contest.
Pao
March 13th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
40hhmmm… si ruffa talaga. bago naman siya naging Ms. World 2nd Princess eh Ms. Bruneiyuki muna sya ah! chismis man yun or hindi. hehehe!
Connie Veneracion
March 13th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
41Paul, I’d say that during the past 20 years, they’d be exceptions, right? All throughout the 70s to the 90s, the trend was win a beauty title → join the movies → take off clothes if without acting talent
Pao, wasn’t there a Senate investigation on those Bruneiyukis?
Paul
March 13th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
42I personally know one of the lawyers who represented one of the witnesses and for a time sobrang inalaska namin siya being a lawyer of the stars or somesuch.
Connie Veneracion
March 13th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
43Paul, when I was re-reading To Kill A Mockingbird a couple of weeks ago, I lingered over that part when the father (the lawyer) agreed to represent the black guy and his kids were getting the brunt of it in school where classmates were calling their father a Negro-lover and a traitor to his “kind”. And the father told the kids that there are cases that every lawyer wishes would never come across his door but when it does, he just can’t turn it away no matter how difficult the consequences. I wonder if your friend felt that way. Or, maybe, representing starlets these days is good for business?
unknown
March 14th, 2008 at 12:32 am
44Ma’am, I do think you got it all wrong. No, of course being fluent in English is not a measurement of intelligence. But NOT being fluent in English implies just that. Outside of the country, people don’t care about what’s inside the person. Being a Filipino outside the Philippines is a dog-eat-dog world. You don’t encounter this often i bet, but Filipino OFWs are being called ‘monkeys’ because we’re not going up to the world standard of excellence. Ma’am, simpleng English na nga lang di pa nagawa ni Miss San Miguel. It’s ok if its just her. But she represents the whole country, our culture, our people. As much is given, much is required. Think about what other nations will think of our country when she stands there on the podium to represent us? She could have prepared. She could have taken speech lessons. Why does being a Filipino have to be an excuse not to learn English? It’s an international pageant. If people think that pageants are for beauty alone, then something is wrong. Ok lang if a person couldnt speak English, but her main thing doesn’t involve speaking the language. But Ms. San Miguel joining an international (implies English-speaking) pageant, should have prodded her to learn.
Minsan, we are too compassionate that we mistake mediocrity for it. Minsan, mas mabait pa tayo sa Diyos. Her being non-American does not excuse her to learn. Rizal learned many languages and what made him great is that he beat up the foreigners on their own terms. And Ruffa, if you consider the tone in her voice, is not being self-righteous. If she is, then she wouldn’t have given the poor lady an advice to redeem herself. Ms. Ruffa said, she still has 7 months to learn. Ms. San Miguel must grab this opportunity.
In the midst of the clamor, it’s not right to judge Ms. San Miguel. But it’s not right to console her too much either.
Ting
March 14th, 2008 at 4:04 am
45Sassy, at what point in the contest does Q & A come in? Di ba sa top 5 leading to coronation na? Masuwerte nga siya kung masasama siya sa top 25. How come yung mga telented beauties natin never even made it to the top 25?
sam
March 14th, 2008 at 11:53 am
46Hi Con. Great posts! I think if you can’t speak straight English, you should just speak in Tagalog and vice versa.
…Remember the big boss at our Firm? He couldn’t speak straight English, but he was smart. You’re right in pointing out that people sometimes make the mistake of equating fluency in English with being intelligent.
Connie Veneracion
March 14th, 2008 at 12:57 pm
47Unknown, you have the facts wrong, you have the conclusions wrong. She joined a LOCAL beauty pageant. I’ll leave it at that.
Ting, I think that during the pre-pageant stage, they judges interview them although off the camera. All events — swimsuit, interview, evening gown — the semi finalists are actually chosen during the pre-pageant stage. The scores are just announced during pageant night.
Sam, “smart” is indeed the accurate term. Hindi magulangan yung tao na yun hehehe
Ting
March 14th, 2008 at 3:11 pm
48Any idea on the criteria the judges based their decisions upon? Is this for public consumption or pang pageant committee lang? Knowing na ang Bb. P is a non-profit org, siguro ang “freedom of information” does not apply ano? Sino-sino yung mga judges for this year’s contest? Ilan sila? I know Vivian Tan is one of them for sure. From one of the videos I saw, merong isang foreigner (not quite sure) na cosmetics expert (??). Hehe, pinag-re-research ba kita?
Connie Veneracion
March 14th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
49They only release the scores — that’s the only part that is for public consumption.
Don’t know the judges. I do know that it isn’t uncommon to find among them politicians, ambassadors, consuls and high-ranking corporate executives (often from pageant sponsors). Which is really weird because I don’t know how they can be considered experts in poise and projection hehehehe
Ting
March 14th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
50Anong kahihiyaan ang pinagsasabi ng mga tao? Di ba matagal na tayong nasa kahihiyaan dahil sa ating presidente, sa ating mga politicians, sa ating gobyerno? Beauty contest lang ‘to. The rest of the people from other parts of the world know better than base their judgement on who they think you are on Janina’s performance alone in my opinion.
almira
March 15th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
51yes ms. connie you’re right that ruffa is wrong if shes really implying that Filipinos who do not know how to speak in English fluently are “not brainy”. But the point is– hndi na nga marunong mag-english si Janina San Miguel, mali pa sagot. : (
at sino ba may sabi na kelangan english ang isagot nila? kaya nga BB. PILIPINAS eh, ibig sabhin PINAY sila. ang kaso nagpilit pa itong si Janina na mag-english eh lalo na tuloy nasira yung diskarte nya : (
tinker
March 16th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
52Janina feigned she could do it in english and that’s what nailed her! nobody told her she couldn’t do it in filipino. and her answer, kahit sa tagalog nya sinabi yon, wlang sense! she didn’t answer the question! pa cute lang sya don, tanga naman tngnan! kakahiya sya!
shiz
March 17th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
53so it’s ok to have someone Like her win the pageant? tsk tsk tsk
what exactLy is the measure of inteLLigence? can you look me straight in the eye and teLL me she dispLayed an ounce of inteLLigence up there? she was educated, wasn’t she? i’ve aLways anticipated the q and a portion of bb piLipinas. it makes me proud as a fiLipina if a contestant can answer outstandingLy. if it was a beauty contest for a tv variety show, ok Lng sana. but it was the supposedLy prestigious bb piLipinas. they are going to be roLe modeLs for the LittLe girLs.
Andrea
March 19th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
54With the Bruneiyuki, gold digger tag + the double marriage issue, it would be better for Ruffa to keep her peace. That is more scandalous than stupid English. In my part of Europe, I probably speak the best English but that doesn’t make me any better than the people here.
doy cinco
March 20th, 2008 at 9:37 am
55http://doycinco.blogspot.com/
Sa aking pagkakaunawa, ang[b] “english carabao”[/b] ay isang klase ng english na ginagamit ng mga englisero at engliserang Pinoy. Daang libong Pinoy at ‘di lang si Janina ang gumagamit ng “english carabao.” Trahedya man ito, globalisasyon o isang karangalan, pinipilit sabayan ang diksyon ng mga Englishmen/women, kahit mali-mali ang grammar, kahit hindi maunawaan at maintindihan mismo ng mga Briton at Kano (Anglo-American) ang “carabao english” ng mga Pinoy.
Mula sa sistema ng ating edukasyon bilang medium sa pagtuturo, ginamit ang English sa gubyerno’t lehislatura at pakikipagtransaksyon sa negosyo. Gamit sa pakikipagtalastasan, sa court hearing, debate, sa mga pormal (social) na pagtitipon, conferences, forum, kahit sa simpleng pakikipagkomunikasyon, pagsusulat, kalatas o kahit sa mga panayam, advocacy work, kahit pilit at katawa-tawa, “english kalabaw” ang karaniwang ginagamit.
“Ikatlo (3rd placer) raw ang Pilipinas sa buong mundo na nagsasalita ng English. ” Apat na siglong nilooban (occupation) tayo ng Amerika, Hapon at Kastila. Noong panahon ng Kastila, ginamit ang wika upang ikintal sa utak natin ang mensahe ng kabanalan at pagiging masunurin. Sa ilalim ng Kano, sa loob lamang ng kalahating siglo at ilang dekada matapos “ibigay ang kasarinlan,” isinubo ang wikang English bilang opisyal na lengguwahe.
Kung sa pulitika’t kapangyarihan, kung gusto mong maging pulitiko kailangang English ang gamit mo, kung gusto mo ng may mataas na pinag-aralan at modernong pamumuhay wikang English ang dapat na gamit mo. Ginamit ang English sa pagbibiyahe sa abrod o jungket. Ginamit ang English sa land grabbing at malakihang pagnanakaw. Ginamit ang English upang sang-ayunan ang mga batas at tratadong kontra Pilipino. Ginamit ang English upang supilin ang kilusang makabayan. Ginamit ang English, upang baluktutin ang hustisya’t paburan ang mga malalaki’t mga dambuhala. Ginamit ang English sa pangungurakot. Yung salitang commission, under the table, standard operational procedure (SOP), sovereign guarantee at “substantial compliance” ay walang iba kundi suhol, lagay at pangungulimbat.
Sinasabi ng ilang kritiko na tuluyan na tayong nawalan ng tunay pagkakakilala sa sarili. Sa awit ni Heber Bartolome na “Tayo’y mga Pinoy”, para tayong asong ngumingiyaw at hindi tumatahol. Sabi nga ni Randy David, “walang wikang umuunlad kung hindi ito naisusulat at binabasa. Walang wikang umuunlad kung ito’y hindi sinasanay na maglulan ng mga produkto ng kamalayan at iba’t-ibang kaisipang hango sa maraming kultura. Kailangang makipag-usap ang ating sarili’t-katutubong wika sa mga wika ng ibang bansa, sa halip na isangtabi ito, sa maling pag-aakalang hindi na ito angkop sa bagong panahon.”
Nasa yugto na tayo ng tinatawag na “Panahon ng Kaalaman.” Upang mkamit ang mithiing kaunlaran, napakahalaga ngayon ang pagpapaabot at pagpapaunawa ng kaalaman o mga kaisipan para sa mamamayang Pilipino. Hindi totoong mababa at makitid ang karunungang makukuha sa Filipino. Pakulo lamang ito ng mga maka-English na naniniwalang hindi tayo uunlad kung hindi tayo marunong mag-English.
May sarili na tayong teknolohiya para mabuhay at magsarili. May nalinang na tayong paraan ng agrikultura at mga industriya para masagot ang ating pangangailangang pangkabuhayan. Intelektuwalisado na ang ating wika noon pa man. May mga salita ito na naglalaman ng mga katutubong kaalaman sa pilosopiya, politika at teknolohiya.
Kung ang wikang English ang mag-aahon sa karalitaan at mataas na antas ng ating pamumuhay (Nipongo, Korean, Mandarin, Bahasa, Scandinvian, Russian at iba pang mauunlad na sibilisasyon, identity at kultura), kung ang English ang magpapawi ng katiwalian at pangungurakot, kung ang English ang magpapalago ng industriya’t teknolohiya at empleyo, kung ang English ang papawi sa pagiging busabos ng Pinoy sa mata ng mundo, kung ang english ang bubura sa paninging mga UTUSAN, chimay at PROSTI (domestic helper at caregivers) ang Pinoy sa mata ng mundo, kung ang English ang magdadala ng maraming gintong medalya sa tuwing may palaro sa Olympic at kung ang English ang siyang daan sa pagkakaisa, baka siguro NUMERO UNO NA TAYO SA LAHAT NG BAGAY SA MUNDO!
Tulad ng mga mauunlad (kamalayang panlipunan at kaunlaran) na mga bansang may sarili at pambansang wikang ipinatutupad, may sapat na kakayahan ang mga Pilipino na makamit ang tunay na sariling kamalayan at kaunlaran kung patuloy tayong maiintindihan, mauunawaan at makipag-ugnayan sa sarili nating mga kababayan.
Ayon kay Ornolfor Thorsson, tumayong adviser ng Presidente sa Iceland noong 1800, “Without our language, we have no culture, we have no identity, we are nothing.” Ipinahayag niya ito sa panahong nanganganib masalaula, burahin at patayin ng kolonyalistang Norwegian ang sariling wika ng bansang Iceland (the Icelanders as an ethnolinguistic people would have disappeared from the face of the earth).
Ang “english carabao” at ang insidenteng kinasapitan ni Janina ay repleksyon lamang kung gaano kabaluktut, kabusabos at kapariwara ng elitistang lipunang ginagalawan ni Janina. Kung nagsalita sana ng Pilipino si Janina, bukud sa walang dudang malaya niyang naipaabot ang kanyang mensahe sa wikang Pilipino, tiyak na hahangaan-kabibiliban pa ito ng sambayanang Pilipino. Biktima lang si Janina ng isang bansang patuloy na “naliligaw, naghahanap ng direksyon, identidad, kamalayan at pagbabago.”
Doy Cinco / IPD
Ryan
March 21st, 2008 at 10:36 am
56Yes! we are filipinos we do have our own dialects and standards. The point of having a Beauty Pageant is to screen those who can be an ambassadors of Good Will. Not too screen those who can speak in english well or those who are brainy. Yes! able to speak in english is a point but I dont think it should be the totality of your score. There were only 8 judges during the pageant,those judges choose Janina because they felt she deserve it. Anu nlang mangyayari kung lahat tayo naging judge, may mapipili pka kaya tayo. Lahat tyo may kapansanan s mundo and all of us has it’s own standard. We should blame the judges not Janina it self. Let’s just hope and pray n Manalo cya!
Ewan kulang ha!!! pero sariling contestant ntin talo n s mismung country nya! Let just wait and see first kung ano ang magiging tingin s kanya ng Judges s ibang bansa. Malay nyo manalo p cya!!! eh di kablag!!!!kablag kyung lahat!!!!!
My advised to janina!!! is mag pakatotoo nlang cya!! if she cannot speak in english fine! no one is forcing him too wala nman nkukulong dyan eh!!. Dialect is even better as long as the thought is there!!! GUD LUCK!!
Jayred
March 21st, 2008 at 9:47 pm
57I agree with you 100 percent on this one, Connie.
Oh, I hate watching beauty pageants.
Sunshine
March 26th, 2008 at 1:46 am
58When you participate in this pageants, people look up to you,cause your representing your country.You should be able to communicate well,your the” Ambassador of Goodwill”.
This Bb Pilipinas could not even answer a simple question.I hope she practice before she goes to the MS WORLD competition,and shes taking MASSCOM?
Connie Veneracion
March 26th, 2008 at 11:04 am
59Wow, Sunshine, do people really still believe that ambassador of goodwill crap? LOL Beauty pageants are money making machines, nothing more and nothing less.
gigi
March 26th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
60wow.. curious and interesting ang topic dito ms. connie.. in all honesty, when i saw ruffa commenting about janina, i agreed with her.and my comment was ‘ano ba yan, nakakahiya!’
at oo nga,dapat ganda ang major points mo sa isang beauty pageant, pero, tulad naman ng ibang bagay, nag momove on din ang standards di ba? kung noong panahon ni ms gloria diaz e recreation lang ang pagsali sa isang beauty contest.. hindi kaya dahil itinaas na ng panahon ang standards niya kaya ang mga beauty pageant contestants e mas matalino at mas magaganda na rin?(sa tulong ng teknolohiya e naeenhance na ang kagandahan ngayon di po ba?- kaya sa brains na lang din nagkakatalo-talo, however minor the points is compared to the other criteria of judging) na dahil mas matatalino at articulate ang mga contestants ng panahon na ito kaya dapat lang din na makisabay tayong mga pinoy? wala naman sigurong masama kung mag aspire tayo na makilala bilang maganda at matalinong tao, di po ba?i have nothing against speaking our own language and maybe requesting an interpreter if needed for janina. kaso, mas impressive kase, kung makakasalita ka ng english dahil at least learned mo sya, kahit di impressive ang content ng answer mo, basta may kahit konting sense lang naman din.
Pedestrian Observer GB
March 27th, 2008 at 12:15 am
61“In the second place, there is a reason why beauty pageants are called beauty pageants and not IQ contests. If it were otherwise, winners would be declared, maybe, once every 10 years.”
Aray ko, well said……..lol, was that an indictment of sorts on the state of beauty pageants in the Philippines or what? Yes they are a money making machine in the same manner that boxing is also a commercial undertaking unfortunately politicized by shameless trapo opportunist and Pacquiao along with some gullible people took the bait hook, line and sinker.
Connie Veneracion
March 27th, 2008 at 1:10 am
62Considering the quality of majority of the women who join beauty pageants these days, I don’t think standards have risen. On the contrary, Gigi.
Pedestrian Observer GB, hay you said it perfectly about Pacquiao and pro boxing. In fact, the same thing is true about all pro sports. I feel like barfing when people equate Pacquiao’s victory as something related to patriotism. Lines like “para sa bansa”… shucks.
Pedestrian Observer GB
March 28th, 2008 at 1:43 am
63Sinabi mo pa Connie, the sad part is that those who dared speak out about it are lumped as crabs when it was all about money.
Oh, by the way I like your “patutsada” as in paki-sungkit ang kilay, lol that I linked this in my latest entry….
Romulo Neri’s Glued Lips & the Supreme Court
Connie Veneracion
March 28th, 2008 at 10:53 am
64You know how it is, people will believe what they want to believe and refuse to see what they don’t like.
Flora Rivera
April 2nd, 2008 at 1:27 am
65When Ruffa won as Miss Philippines World, she was raging mad and very vocal in saying that she deserved the most coveted Miss Phil Universe title… and vowed to be Miss World to prove her point. The truth was I prayed that she would lose. Napakayabang! When she cheated during the movie scam, parang ginago niya ang buong Pilipinas and easily ran away with it. Ngayon, ang galing niyang mang-insulto ng kapuwa niya beauty pageant contestant. Ano ba ipinagmamalaki niya? May pinag-aralan ba siya? Masuerte lang siya at matagal siyang nagtinda ng kaldero sa Amerika kaya natuto siyang umingglis ng hirap na hirap pa. At least yung nanalo sa pageant, tunay ang pagkatao, tunay ang hagikhik, walang pagkukunwari. Maganda ang reaksyon ni Charlene, gustong makatulong. Si Ruffa, gustong ipakita na siya ang pinakamaganda. Brainy ba siya? Ruffa, magpa-test ka nga kung ilan ang IQ mo?
Jose
April 9th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
66Ruffa has no integrity to criticize Janina San Miguel. Ruffa committed the crime of bigamy. She should thank her lucky stars that she was not subjected to prosecution. However, I bet if the USCIS hears about this they can cancel her green card and bar her from entering the U.S.
A good answer and an even better observation — Connie Veneracion
April 10th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
67[...] days ago, a local TV show aired an episode about beauty pageants hot on the heels of the Janina San Miguel phenomenon. The segment mentioned former Miss Universe Gloria Diaz and a famous question she once [...]
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